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| Subject: | RE: Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results | |||
| Author: | Ashley : view profile | all posts by this author | add to favourites |
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| Date: | 09:33:04 3 November 2004 | |||
Hi Jon
I guess things rarely are that ’equal’ as it will depend on business, target market and so on. In particular, I think it will depend on how well you already rank in natural search as to what you might need to invest in PPC. Also I am increasingly wary of conversion rates because they exclude all sorts of other, potentially irrelevant, ’noise’ - for example, we must get at least 500 unique visitors a day referred from organic search results which are completely irrelevant and therefore will not convert. Should those be counted or filtered out of our conversion rates for SEO?
That said, I can tell you what we are experiencing ourselves, bearing in mind we are a large content-rich well-ranked site with lots of inbound links (though we’d like more!) and we have quite a niche B2B market:
The reality for us in weighing up the SEO vs. PPC ROI argument is that for us to get a positive ROI from PPC we have to be targeted in our search phrases (to get low cost clicks and high resulting conversions) and this just doesn’t deliver any significant volume of business. Organic rankings, on the other hand, deliver the volume.
We did an experiment recently where we broadened the phrases that we were bidding on (e.g. from 'e-mail marketing vendor reviews' to just 'e-mail marketing') which usually also necessitated sending the clicks to less targeted pages on our site. This resulted in much higher traffic, much higher costs, and no noticeable increase in conversion rates so we've reverted to the more targeted approach. If we sold advertising on the site we might be able to justify the costs of buying traffic (to re-sell the page impressions) in this way, but as we don't, we can't.
For our 2005 budgeting we’re still actually spending more on PPC than SEO in absolute terms but this is only because of the media costs of PPC and, to be honest, if we dropped it completely it wouldn’t make a huge difference either way (and I’m tempted). Relatively speaking we’re increasing our SEO investment much more in 2005. But you never know when those algorithms might get changed and it is certainly a concern for us to be reliant on good organic rankings.
Ashley
On 10:00:56 2 November 2004 jbovard wrote:
This is a very relevant area but my main question is still: all else equal, how do the conversion rates compare for Organic v Paid clicks?
For instance If I search for a ’Fuji s5000 camera’, am I more likely to buy off a paid click than an Organic click?
and/or how does the conversion compare on more generic terms like ’digital camera’..again all else being equal.
there are costs with PPC and there are inherent costs with Organic SEO. I wonder how the ROI compares for different traffic?
feedback appreciated
CheersJon Bovard
Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results, Ashley
, 1 Nov 10:06
Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results, ChrisD, 1 Nov 11:06
Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results, DaveChaffey, 1 Nov 13:52
Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results, jbovard, 2 Nov 10:00
RE: Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results, Ashley
, 3 Nov 09:33
Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results, panlogic, 3 Nov 12:30
Recent figures for % clicks on organic search results vs. paid results, panlogic, 3 Nov 12:35